In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Bibarel and Tropius can learn all of them between the two. 8 is possible, but some players use Fly and Surf for competitive moves. Hm slaves? ZLuxray626 13 years ago #1 so far I have zig but what should I use when he's full of HMs? Final Fantasy Record Keeper: Tyro/Sentinel Grimoire - QjcW. I like using Farfetch'd and Golduck. CeruleanGamer 8 years ago #5. Bibarel (Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Rock Smash) and Tropius (Fly, Defog, Strength, Cut). It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Its moves are all HMs. Reply reply falinangel505 • My friend just explained it to me in the 5 minutes it took my comment cooldown to reset. and don't. Surf is on my water pokemon (Lapras). Stuff like Azumarill, Gyarados, Tentacool, etc. Pure water Samurott is just a really good add to your team anyway, and the water HMs are strong in battle, so you might as well use. linoone - strength, cut, rock smash tropius - fly, secret power wailord - dive, surf, waterfall MarioGalaxyR0X 9 years ago #7 Tropius/Golduck is actually an excellent combo: Tropius Fly Cut Strength Rock Smash Golduck Surf Waterfall Dive Flash TROPIUS AND CHANDELURE!!!!! Yes! I am so damn pumped! Goodra is also a great choice! I am meh on Intelion. and tropius (flash/secretpower, secretpower/fly, rocksmash, cut) If you have a hard time memorizing areas, you can leave fly on a pokemon, and just interchange flash and secretpower (since they both tm anyway) when you need them. . Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Fretka Disabled: User Name Change Posts: 6068. There were a good handful of changes and improvements made for Diamond, Pear. #5. At high levels you're getting Rare Candies, Full Restores, Heart Scales, Leftovers, PP. As an HM slave, Wishcash is a particularly good choice thanks to a solid typing of ground and water, as well as having a decent move set. Pelliper Surf Fly Defog. But now I'm in FireRed, who should I use? 3rd November 2004, 03:56 PM #2. 5. In ORAS, I've used a Linoone. Tropius has been a solid HM slave choice in almost every appearance it has made since its inception. I was also thinking about Pikachu, but it doesn't learn Cut. I don't have the national 'dex yet, so I can't transfer over a Tropius from my Sapphire so I can have an HM Slave with Fly and Defog. :x. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut,. ago. Fly. Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100Eww dont put HMs on your good pokemon A bunch of people, myself included, have an "HM Slave" in our parties that just sits there and uses all the HMs like Cut, Rock Smash, etc that are horrible move-wise. Pokemon Platinum Version. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. As Fly Users go, only Tropius and Salamence are non-legendaries that learn at least 4 HMs. I really don't see the problem. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Sign in with the following networks. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. But a lot of other water Pokes work too. Dwell in peace in the home of your own being, and the messenger of Death will not be able to touch you. Slaves of the hm species are the most powerful and trustworthy creatures of their kind. 5th Gen Dex. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Of the four lines, I like the Furret line the best as a bottom line, though the Bidoof line is better at being HM slaves. 6. Cheats. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). 4 Greninja. "--- Teenman. however for utility reasons a grass type w/ sweet sent might be called for So Oddish would be a good choice or Tropius as an HM slave per Eon flute. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Tropius is pretty useful. Between Tropius and a water-type, you can get all 8 HMs. Cons - Swanna isn't that great in battle, due to below average stats in everything except Speed. So now you need a Dive. From Lilycove, Tropius requires backtracking through R120 > Fortree City > R119. Mew is the obvious choice. I hope you are having a fantastic day! littlebigpiano 12 years ago #4. Strength. ago. It's like compensation. Legendary_Musas 8 years ago #5. Gameorama91 7 years ago #5. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon. Next Last. Dang, I was afraid of that. It’s a highly favored tropical snack. zeroality15 years ago#2. Board Topics. You can do better than that. ANYONE IS FREE TO JOIN! These are playthrough logs for KinglerMaster (t∣b∣c), CSketch (t∣b∣c), TheFireDragoon (t∣b∣c), GamingDylan (t∣b∣c), PrimalFan (t∣b∣c) and NovaPen (t∣b∣c) for the Pokemon game Pokemon Platinum Version. Notify me about new: Guides. Do not be afraid to teach your team members hms (there isn't much movepool diversity in the earlier gens anyway). Not sure about Rock Smash, to be honest. So, the question is. Nidorina or Nidorino and Dragonite are also. FC: 2423-3256-7374. HM Slave switches in and out of the team. Thank you Bibarel, you’re a true friend. 2 Ludicolo. My Lilligant knows Sleep Powder, Flash, Cut, and Giga Drain. I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. "If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. HM Slave. My fav was a Mew I hacked back in the day on my pokemon red for the GB. Rudoku. It can be an interesting wall with it's hidden ability restoring berries, but it's not a GOOD pokemon in a battle sense. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. According to their overall usefulness, durability, and strength, these Pokémon have been ranked as the top 10 hm slaves. You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it. Depends on the game, really. I ended up using Latias as my HM Slave. Tropius, hands-down. 4. Any sites that say they can are using old information. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. . Examples of ones that will do: Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Psyduck/Golduck. 1 Crawdaunt. OK not a LOT less. Tropius was made to give us a cool HM slave. BANANYAN was Patterrz's starter, & his main Pokémon during the run, later joined by Kenya the Magmar. Tropius and Bibarel. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Siege mode! It is probably the best slave choice in the game in terms of giving mobility on the map. ago. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. For Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "New play through suggestions". Absolute truth. A more practical solution is a combo of Farfetch'd (Cut/Fly) and Pikachu (the other 3). TIA. Wingull meanwhile is 'nearer' in R120 or within Lilycove itself, and the OP's original statement was: "I need the NEAREST Pokemon that can learn fly". Azumarril learns Dive, Surf, Rock Smash and Waterfall while hitting hard with Dive and Waterfall. When you can find Tropius, get one. Hellfire is my HM Slave, and Brimstone is my Shiny Charizard with super powered up moves. KokyuDosa14 years ago#6. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. "If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. Try being informed instead of just opinionated. Get. to catching tropius in emeraldthe only place to catch tropius is route 119 duuhhh. Ruin Maniac Dusty (Route 111): 15% chance to get a Star Piece Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. Sign in with the following networks. Toast. notyalemblem 14 years ago #7. " SW-6321-4362-5535. Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. • 3 yr. ago. DATA_ERROR. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. -Henry Louis Mencken. Tropius - Cut / Fly / Strength / Rock Smash Rayquaza - Fly / Surf / Strength / Waterfall / Rock Smash / Dive Fast Money Trainer's Eye: When rematching these trainers, you will automatically face their strongest team if you have defeated the Elite Four. Giratina (lvl. DRAGONITE used BARRIER! shinryu_omega 8 months ago #5. (Tropius is caught at the safari) tiomasta (Expert) - 14 years ago - report. Strangely enough, there’s one other Pokemon in the series that learns Cut without needing an HM, largely because this Pokemon debuted after the developers removed HMs from the series. Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. i used him in emerald by acident. ago. Shiny lvl 100. And a Dragonite with Fly, Defog, Cut, Whirlpool. Basculin can learn surf, waterfall, cut and dive. In D/P/P specifically, you’ve got the options of cut, fly, defog, strength, and rock smash. Rock Smash. I use sharpedo for surf dive waterfall rock smash and i use tropius for fly strength cuti and sweet scent (ev horde. MegaButterfree 7 years ago. Magikarp. Usually the. . SolidOrochi 13 years ago #8 Tropius @ Hat Fly Defog Cut Rock Smash / Strength Bibarel @ Choice Band Rock Climb Rock Smash / Strength Surf Waterfall Now go and beat your friends. Callista08 posted. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. Cut. ago. Reaction score. For my playthrouugh of Alpha sapphire, my heart goes out to Bubblez the azumarill, for surfing, diving waterfalling and digging, and Bananasoar the Tropius, for flying, cutting, being moderately strong and rock smashing. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm slaves around, but i'd say Watchog, since it gets a fair few HM's, as does ducklett. Hm slaves are a common practice among the fans of pokémon; And put hm03 on a good water type pokémon because the move rocks. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. EDIT: Aw, maybe I should have thrown Tropius a bone. Later on if you catch a Tropius, use that as an HM slave as it can learn HM. No one has mentioned him but I use Diggersby as my HM SLave and he does work. This is NOT a signature. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Stats. Haha I think I just remembered from the Gyarados + Tropius HM slave pairing in Gen 3. And Chinchou. A new personal favorite I have been using is Tropius. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. If you are at or can get to Pastoria City, you're halfway there! You can catch both a Bibarel and a Tropius in the Great Marsh. . Sign in with the following networks. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in. . Rapiido Flying Paradise Bird. . Wishcash. FLY on Honkrow. Two-Face 13 years ago #3. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. I was also thinking about Pikachu, but it doesn't learn Cut. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. #6. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). Tropius together with any of a large number of water Pokemon. It has Fly, Strength, and Cut. In PokeMMO literature, utility Pokemons focused on HMs called HM slave. Other than that I think the rest are interchangeable. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. Assy ass ass assington. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. HM slave Reply gwaenchanh-a. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Because TMs are reusable, if you have patience, you don't even need an HM slave, even in post-game! If you don't mind going to the move deleter several times, you can teach Dive to something in your party,. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. My Bibarel has Cut and Rock Smash right now, so depending in what order I get the rest of the HMs (I. Reply5. Tropius Pokémon has the ability to fly and you can catch it at level 2 with PokéBall. (Water Types, so yeah) can get whatever you didn't give Tropius. Tropius isn't a particularly competitive pokemon for battling, but if you lived in the Hoenn region, a Tropius would be such an insanely practical pokemon partner. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. . Tropius is probably one of the worst options available though. bibarel rock climb, strength, surf, waterfall? Jbates. By carrying around an HM slave, you don't have to allocate any of your actual team's limited moves towards often. dragonite can learn 7 out of 8 HMs iirc! so clearly the answer is 2 dragonites. Aerodactyl - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash Golduck - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb You can't get Aerodactyl until after the Elite Four, but you also don't need Rock Climb until Mt Silver. CUT on Serperior. Latias is my HM slave in Alpha Sapphire. Cheats. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. It was the first appearance of the Pokémon series on the Nintendo DS, marking the true beginning of the next generation of games. Tropius + Bibarel. Anything suggestions with all 8 are welcome. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. Something about Water Tera, Leech Seed/Protect,. Empoleon: Surf, Rock Climb, Rock Smash, Cut. PokeAMon 14 years ago #5. Golduck has webbed feet, making it a fast swimmer. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Safari=Dwebble, Pupitar and Shuckle. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. 0. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. Business, Economics, and Finance. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Linoone is the best HM slave of all time (better than Bibarel) because it learns all of the stuff you'd want plus it has Pick Up. 101 Speed is really solid, ties. SonicNash(Topic Creator)15 years ago#3. ago. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. - Rayquaza_man7. " - Malcolm X. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. Tropius' distinctive nature earns it an HM-toting spot on plenty of party lists. Basically, the most useful HMs that’ll come in handy throughout your journeys. Attacks. Hiyakkie on the other hand can learn Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. Use him ingame as a sunnybeamer and he'll do fine. Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. ago. Nice, thanks for the heads up. Not sure about Rock Smash, to be honest. no evolutionary family, no Mega, no legendary, third-gen release only. I usually go with three:Apr 6, 2010. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. 55 votes, 30 comments. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. The other options are either Zapdos, Mew, Dragonite, or Charizard (in Yellow), all of which have better things to do besides being an HM user. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. HM's and Field Moves:-SURF -WATERFALL -WHIRLPOOL -ROCK SMASH -HEADBUTT -TELEPORT -FLY -ROCK CLIMB -DIG-MILK DRINK -SOFTBOILED -CUT -STRENGTH -FLASH DIG = useful and awesome, rather a must to have on something as it makes ESCAPE ROPE "useless"; give an EVERSTONE to a Diglett or use TM 28 on an ONIX. CryptoTropius is cool, but it's not exactly the best stat-wise. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Other possible HM Pokemons are: Marill, Tropius, Psyduck, Nidoking, Pelipper, Pikachu, Dragonite, Swampert, Bibarel,. Tropius's egg groups: Grass, Monster. it's the internet >_> - ILikeDesu. I decided to go with Pancham as my HM slave for now. ago. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius=Best HM Slave in the series. Though eventually your HM slaves will be Sharpedo and Tropius Reply DisasterAhead • Additional comment actions. If not, it can learn most of them. BW1 & BW2: Wailmer for water, Tropius for everything else X: The gift Lapras you get for water, my Fletchlinder for Flying (and breeding since it also had Flamebody), and Bibreal for the rest. The main mons that cover the important ones you need (Fly, Surf, etc) are Dragonite, Lugia, Mew, Latias, and Latios. Gum-Gum Gummi Ship: Blueprint Active! "The show where everything's made up and the points don't matter! Let's have some fun!" RaikouTGC 13 years ago #3. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Emerald_Melios 7 years ago #9. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. To Sharpedos and Linoones everywhere, we say thankyou. Chinchou has Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Flash. 3DS FC: 2079-6337-2596. Reply . jonosaurus • 9 yr. Smeargle, Tropius, Mew. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. He is such a cool design he just sucks in the games and ended up being really forgettable. Ok-Leave3121 • 4 mo. MY TEAM: Breloom, Sceptile, Ludicolo, Cacturne, Roserade, Cradily, Ferrothorn, Shiftry, and Tropius (HM Slave). Bibarrel. Depending on how you teach them, or what's most important. "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. . Typhlosion can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Rock Climb, and. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. Tropius isn't as accessible, you can get bidoof on the first route and I don't think you can get tropius in diamond/pearl at all. Anyone know of an easily accessed hm slave that can learn cut and fly? (And defog too, but it ain't a big deal) I know tropius can learn both, but it comes kind of late in game I. In the event that the OP wasn't after a throwaway HM slave. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Also Arecus,Darkrai, Deoxys, Dialga, Entei, Mew, and Raikou. . The Pokemon Database has this awesome chart that can be used to find "HM slaves". bibarel and tropius. Hiyakkie on the other hand can learn Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. Tropius is in the Great Marsh. ago. Stev019 8 years ago #6. Dlnar • 10 yr. 2 Gallade. Bibarel is the best HM slave the game has ever seen, and you can get Bidoof the second you start the playthrough. Tropius has Strength, Cut, Fly, Rock Smash. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. Best slave pokemon? Pokemon - Diamond, Pearl & Platinum Help ForumTropius (HM Slave) Please Help and Vote! Top. Grass/Dragon would be an awesome type combo, and Tropius already looks like a dragon. Put Tropius into slavery. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. . Ah right I only use Tropius as a HM slave. Feels like a decent compromise. And a. SwampertOwns 12 years ago #7. It can learn Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. Stantler Thief earthquake strenght. But it seems tropiua ia not here? Any suggestions for Slaves? Currently on Pokemon League on the first region. that's about it. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. For Pokemon Platinum Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius?". knows false. 3DS FC: 1891 1187 4587 White 2 FC: 1765 0547 5604. Tropius not only are great HM slaves (Cut, Fly, Strength and Rock Smash) but also are in two egg groups (Grass & Monster) : r/friendsafari "Ian": 5198-3339-3123. Top. Thanks in advance. An HM mule is an incredibly useful tool in old school Pokemon, and certain Pokemon are the most optimal options for the job. How about a regional form? Nibounium • 4 mo. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. 1 of 2 Go to page. You really don't need a HM slave, just give every Pokemon 1 HM each. #1. Tropius is a bit hard to find. One of my most helpful pokemon for catching pokemon also used to be one of my HM slaves. I suggest slakoth and tropius. Bibarel and tropius learn all HM's. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. Personally I use Tropius as a slave since it can also learn Sweet Scent to spawn Hordes. Cut. Drifblim - Col. I saw a similar set up for gen 4 between tropius and wailmer. Besides, Tropius isn’t useless mechanically; it’s a viable “HM slave,” apparently carved a niche for itself within Pokémon GO’s competitive circuits, and has found some ground within Scarlet & Violet’s, which is nice. He could work, just watch out for ice attacks. Golduck: Surf, Strength, Whirlpool, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb. Tropius is a god tier HM slave. 3 Crobat. Business, Economics, and Finance. Curiously, I tend to think of Tropius as an HM-user before any of these. Tropius. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. Usually also gets Strength, rock smash, and cut/defog. If you want a flying 'HM slave' Tropius is great too: Fly, Strength, Rock Smash and Cut. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. 1. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash.